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On Ginny Hate
Psychoanalyzing the Ginny Haters –is it as easy as they paint it to be?

The recent attacks on Vanceone and other harmonians because of what is perceived as character hate have gone to such extremes that it is no funny anymore.

Most people involved are indeed those so-called Ginny lovers. Seems everyone has an opinion on this and both extremes paint the other in colourful terms.

While some people (especially harmonians) have indeed attacked Ginny’s character, the Ginny lovers’ faction, who, in fact, comprises mostly H/G shippers, have responded attacking harmonians.

I repeat: they responded attacking people and not arguments.

I’ve seen many comments where Ginny lovers have tried to explain away the horrible “crime” of disliking the aforementioned character. The reasons given are:

- Harmonians hate her because she gets the hero.
- No, they hate her because she is pretty and popular, and they seem to have such complexes with pretty people that they hate anyone pretty.
- They are no popular either, so they also dislike a lot popular people.
- They hate her because they were wrong in their predictions
- No, they hate her because they want Harry with Hermione or Luna and Ginny is in the way.
- No, they think she is a bitch, a slut, a meanie, egotistical, etc because that is the way they project themselves in others, their world is filled with fearful people like that, while we see her as pretty, kind, warm, compassionate, adorable because we also pretty, kind, warm, compassionate, adorable too! Wheee!! So that is how we see her! Ginny is the mirror all truths reflect into!! I am sorry for Harmonians, but yet I still hate them for hating Ginny!
- They are misogynists (miso-gynists, got it?) and they hate women. All women. Ginny is the new Eve whence every curse is distributed multiplied by a thousand, to any woman proud of being so.



Don’t you just hate how simple things are when someone summarizes them? But well, sorry that is simply the way my mind works. I really try to rescue the point of the talks, even if they are hidden underneath tons of bullshit (need a bathe now).

But indeed, what does this endless talk about those strange creatures conceived in someone’s febrile imagination and called “Ginny haters” give away about the Ginny lovers?

Inexplicable love and care for a character who was remarkably commonplace and cardboard

Even if for a few of you, Ginny Weasley, a secondary character in a children series, is a representative of the most important human values in your systems; it doesn’t follow that the rest of the readers will give such an importance to said character. This pro-Ginny crusade has baffled and cooled people who may had previously been indifferent to it, turning them into “haters”. I count myself in this category.

Upon entering the fandom I hardly had paid attention to many details of the series, I hardly remembered or cared for a great number of characters. Among these were Sirius, Percy, Arthur and Ginny. The strange and compulsive love I encountered for Ginny as months went by surprised me and finally sickened me out of my rather innocent indifference.

I wonder why all this love? Why care so much? This comes back from the very first books, where Ginny was even less interesting and had much much less page space.

Canon cannot properly vouch for this. Ginny has made no incredibly exploit in goodness or generosity. She has not sacrificed herself for a friend. We know no true goodness or extreme brightness as coming from her. So why the admiration?

Was it because she is commonplace? Because she is like just any average person? No pretty, no smart (no Hermione for sure!), not rich, nor popular?

Because…that was the case until book 5 arrived. When OoTP was finally released the Ginny love suddenly exploded as the previous common person became everything she probably had dreamed of, by the snapping of her fingers: she became suddenly pretty, popular, spunky, athletic and extroverted. Got over her painful crush and the rejection of the person she cared about. Later she got that very same man who had ignored her before, and has him moping for her and mortally wounded by her incredible allure.

And not only that, but this was done remarkably badly from a literary POV too.

So did the people who identified with the common person character saw finally their dreams of overcoming their own real life of shortcomings, fulfilled vicariously? Looks like that to me; just my opinion, of course. I am just an amateur psychologist.

The dream of having all your problems gone down the drain without any effort whatsoever is quite tempting, isn’t it? To have the humiliating memories and experiences of the past suddenly justified through someone who reminds me of myself can be too good to let go…

Well… no, not to everybody. Honest. People who were not invested emotionally in the character; but only invested in the series or other characters, reacted with coolness to the extreme makeover of Ginny. In all fairness, some people like to work for what they get in life. It’s more interesting that way, isn’t it? Well, it is, if you fill yourself capable of obtaining what you want with hard work and talent.

Some readers like to see their values reflected in their literature: even in escapism literature, because if we care about some characters it is because we can identify somehow ourselves with them.

So, we come down to the point of the identification /projection issue. This people who didn’t identify with the “instant millionaire fantasy” may have found themselves not invested emotionally in any character, and even in some cases they were feeling more identified with Hermione.

Hermione, actually does work for what she gets. More intellectual inclined readers may have found themselves more intrigued by her, which was quite natural for them, in my opinion, especially given the great amount of page space and the interesting character development that Hermione received, not to mention the amount of heroine deeds she has performed over the years.


Ginny lovers and self-appointed honour defenders mix reality with fantasy.

Yet, if we find ourselves identified with this or that character, which is natural and human, we should draw the line somewhere and stop thinking that critics on the character I identify with are ATTACKS ON MYSELF OR MY VALUE SYSTEM. OR THE WESTERN CIVILIZATION.

They are not.

They are not.

They are not.

People who dislike, hate or simply find Ginny irritating are not saying so to bother you or to attack your private fantasy of finally getting Brad Pitt to fall in love with you.

Into this point I’d like to also explain something that seems to be basic logic to me but is giving a great deal of unnecessary heartache to my dear friends from the H/G camp:

Even if Ginny was written to be a virgin or a slut, a nun-to-be or the temptress from hell, either case… it doesn’t’ affect the whole of womanhood in its entirety.

Unfortunately literary and media stereotypes do exist. Cataloguing a character as belonging to a certain stereotype is something rather normal to do in the frame of in-depth analysis. It doesn’t mean that the person writing the analysis supports said stereotype.

Comments, essays, even epithets directed to Ginny are not to be applied to you just because you happen to belong to the same gender as the fictional character. You are independent entities to whom literary analysis of your projected fantasy won’t affect in reality.


I love Ginny because I am also pretty and popular and everything positive that could ever be said or written about any woman, oh YES!.

Ok, you are. We have no problem with that, except that is pretty ridiculous that you need to say so yourself. Get a grip for God’s sake. I think I am too ashamed of my fandom to continue right now with this.

So part II may or may not come later.




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[info]anazecria
2006-06-04 08:48 am UTC (link)
- No, they hate her because she is pretty and popular, and they seem to have such complexes with pretty people that they hate anyone pretty.
- They are no popular either, so they also dislike a lot popular people.


Sounds like a roundabout way of saying people who don't think Ginny is the bomb are ugly and have no friends. Huh?

- No, they hate her because they want Harry with Hermione or Luna and Ginny is in the way.
HBP!Harry doesn't deserve Hermione. Actually he doesn't deserve Ginny or Luna either. Hell, he doesn't even deserve Myrtle. HBP!Harry needs an arsekicking.

Hating Ginny implies that one has the energy to devote to the hate. I don't have the energy to devote to hating a fictional character (except Ana Lucia on LOST, that's my one very justifiable weakness).

I wonder why all this love? Why care so much? This comes back from the very first books, where Ginny was even less interesting and had much much less page space.

My theory is that Ginny is the Boba Fett of the HP world. Because pre-OotP, there were only a few tantalising tidbits about her so Ginny could be whatever you wanted her to be. Suddenly in the last two books she gets all this exposure and the preconceptions get fused with all the new info, rather than sparking a new analysis of the character.

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[info]darynthe
2006-06-05 04:13 am UTC (link)
The character hate is something very interesting in fact. If the character is a villain and is well written we actually LOVE TO HATE it. Take for instance Caroline Bingley from P&P. Hating her is right and a gut feeling.

But I am afraid that if you end up hating a character the author meant for readers to love… then something is wrong and indeed should be analyzed from a literary perspective as well as a psychological one.

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[info]phoenixwriter
2006-06-04 08:48 am UTC (link)
*clappy* *clappy* (LT-nostalgic)

Secretly I'm wondering why they aren't wondering how so many people dislike Ginny at hands of canon? It should be that something is wrong with JKR's writing but to consider that is far to dangerous better we generalise and insult the opposite.

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[info]vanceone
2006-06-04 08:09 pm UTC (link)
I've always wondered that as well. It's not just bitter Harmonians who dislike Ginny. Lots of other shippers dislike her as well. And non-shippers. I think they realize it on an unconscious level, since they would otherwise not be so eager to convert the world with fire and sword to their mythology of Ginny love.

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[info]darynthe
2006-06-05 04:14 am UTC (link)
Thank you Di. :) Yeah, there were some very good debates at the Lt! :) Anyway, I was pretty tired of sitting and being a pacifist (which is my natural inclination). Time to help our friends to do some reflection.

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[info]reciprokates
2006-06-15 03:03 am UTC (link)
IMHO I think it's not possible to tell if many people hate a certain character, as those who put "time into hating" a character are often those who are 'screaming' the loudest in the whole internet fandom. Those who just love/like the character, but are not obsessing about a charcter just ignore those discussions and those who don't pay much attention to a character ignore it anyways.

I just stumbled on this whole discussion out of boredom and could not care less about this whole character hate. I actually don't understand this agressiveness of HP fandom.

Just for the sake of actually giving an opinion to the theme of the original post which was about Ginny, I like her character, she is my favourite female character in the books, despite being secondary to the trio. I read all six books in one go, so I had no idea about fandom until after I read HBP.

Now for actually puting myself out here for critizisim for defending the character a little:

I can see why people might not like her character. Before book five she is hardly there and except for CoS she actually never matters for any plotline and bang in book five she is there and before this there is hardly any development shown in the books as to why her character changes so much.
When you read the first two books, there are already hints to Ginny's character, which are not really seen by Harry, who's POV it is until book five. One can critize JKR for not making it more obvious that the Ginny Harry sees in the early books is just that - a Ginny who behaves infront of a guy, she has what ever kind of romantic feelings for and thus not being usual self. She is not perfect in book sic but the POV is Harry who is infatuated with her and hence obviously doesn't see her in a objective way. She is not perfect, as no one can be, but even without going into details from the books, a POV from a subjective character will not directly describe weaknessses, as those aren't worth mentioning for that person. Why tell about imperfectness when you believe she is 'it' for you?

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[info]darynthe
2006-06-15 05:29 pm UTC (link)
You mention POV and that is basic here. Usually, romances use omniscient POV in romantic scenes just because it's important that people identify with both members of the couple. While most books use third person limited.

When you want people to identify with a romance you need to feed readers with deeper tidbits about the characters, but JKR failed somehow to do that with Ginny.

We know JKR is good at structuring characters even through 3rd limited, so I don't understand why this happened. Blah.

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[info]ana_christina
2006-06-04 01:54 pm UTC (link)
o_O

*is speechless*

Sweetie, that's the best thing I read in ages! I can't wait for Part II. By the way, I PMed you a request at HF, please check it out when you have the time. ;)

I repeat: they responded attacking people and not arguments.

I've seen a justification for this somewhere. Supposedly, it's okay to bash/attack real people instead of fictional characters, because real people, unlike fictional character, are accountable for their actions. Unfortunately, my mind fails to grasps what this is all about, since fictional characters can't feel any of the criticism directed at them (which cancels out all that talk about being accountable for things), unlike real people, so...

- No, they hate her because she is pretty and popular, and they seem to have such complexes with pretty people that they hate anyone pretty.

By this logic, every Mary Sue-hater out there just wants to be as perfect as the Mary Sue. Everytime I see this argument I snigger to myself, because in the end it doesn't really matter if Ginny is a Sue or not, what matters is that the extreme Ginny lovers react to criticism of the character very similar to how Suethors react to reviews criticizing their precious Sue. Of course, I am not counting those who give serious defense (canon-based) to the character in this category, just those who try to counter the criticism by pointing to such stupid explanations. They also remind me of Mugglenet's drones reaction to Terry Pratchett's article, when instead of actually countering his comment on Rowling they thought that blaming a successful, professional, extremely intelligent writer such as Pterry of sour-grapes would count as a logical defense. *lol*

- No, they hate her because they want Harry with Hermione or Luna and Ginny is in the way.

I actually agree there's a slight correlation between Ginny-hate and shipping another ship, but I believe it works the other way around. People dislike Ginny, ergo they ship anything else but a Ginny ship, not the other way around. :D This is of course a rather futile exercise in thinking because correlation doesn't equal causation unless the correlation happens at p=0.01, which is very rare and even then...

So did the people who identified with the common person character saw finally their dreams of overcoming their own real life of shortcomings, fulfilled vicariously?

Linky. I don't know if this serves to argue your point or not, but I just thought I should put it here for future reference (I have a collection of such quotes, from various people, which always makes me snigger when I hear cries of "OMG! They over-identify with Hermione"). I think we all tend to identify with a character or the other so I truly believe it's a little bit hypocritical to claim that only "the other side" does it.

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[info]esicardi
2006-06-05 02:51 am UTC (link)
Good points Ana.
Here is another perturbing case self-identification with Ginny:
http://forums.fictionalley.org/park/showthread.php?s=&postid=1510521#post1510521

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[info]darynthe
2006-06-05 04:15 am UTC (link)
Wow, that explanation you heard that it is Ok to bash real people but fictional characters are off limits is mind boogling. But then again I suppose you can stretch words and logic to fit almost anything you want to. This is why I often think that problems shouldn’t be solved by mere logic, they should be addressed first and foremost by principle, especially the Golden Rule.

On your second point, indeed, Ginny is a Sue, but I didn’t want to get into that again, it really doesn’t matter as you point out. What matters is the psychological effect it has on her fans.

About the correlation, of course it exists and must be extremely high. But the reasons are those you exposed. If I don’t like the character in the first place, I won’t be shipping it.

And thank you so much for your kindness.

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[info]vanceone
2006-06-04 08:15 pm UTC (link)
Excellent, Darynthe! Very good. I too join in the praise and wish for you to get out a part II. :)

I do think you are on to something: Ginny didn't work for anything, yet got it all. That's an attractive philosophy--get it all for free. They say that Ginny deserves Harry--why? What has SHE done to deserve anyone, really? Let alone Harry. Unless I'm not reading the Ginny version of the story, I can't recall her standing and believing Harry in GOF. Or saving Harry from the Crucio curse in Phoenix. Or, yes, even warning him of the perils of using unknown magic written in books.

And yes, I too was like WTF at the current trend of "We like pretty popular Ginny because we too are pretty and popular, and kind, unlike those Harmonians who are surrounded by hate and bitterness and don't know any better."

Good job, Dary!

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[info]darynthe
2006-06-05 04:16 am UTC (link)
Thank you. I’ll try getting out a part II. :) About the Ginny getting everything without work, it’s pretty unreal and that is why somewhere the thin line of suspension of disbelief is broken for many people, be it shippers or not.

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[info]kimbersrun
2006-06-05 06:20 am UTC (link)
And yes, I too was like WTF at the current trend of "We like pretty popular Ginny because we too are pretty and popular, and kind, unlike those Harmonians who are surrounded by hate and bitterness and don't know any better."

I am WTF as well since people who consider themselves to be kind go around bashing real people for disliking characters. Yet they do it but they're oh so nice and kind and sweet. Sigh....

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[info]esicardi
2006-06-05 02:01 am UTC (link)
WOW!
This was excellent, Dary. You are so right!
*claps*
Can't wait to read part two!

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[info]darynthe
2006-06-05 04:16 am UTC (link)
Thank you Estrella! You’re very kind. ;) And thanks also for the link to the identification case. I am afraid there are tons of those out there.

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[info]esicardi
2006-06-05 12:10 pm UTC (link)
You are welcome!

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[info]runeharmonic
2006-06-05 02:08 am UTC (link)
Can I just say I agree with everything you said? That was an AWESOME post, Dary! :D

I feel that this part, in particular, highlights a major difference between Harmonians and diehard Ginny lovers:

they responded attacking people and not arguments.

There is nothing wrong with offering valid criticisms--supported by mountains of evidence--of a fictional character. Heck, even character bashing doesn't hurt anyone. No reader is forced to like every character in literature, and no author can force her readers to think a certain way about certain characters.

However, there is something VERY wrong with people who defend a fictional character by attacking REAL PEOPLE instead of their arguments.

WTF, indeed.

In light of the stupidity going on in fandom, that was a really refreshing read. Thanks for writing!

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[info]darynthe
2006-06-05 04:17 am UTC (link)
Indeed, we are supposed to be debating a story and have different preferences and POV in what regard many aspects of the story, but the fact is that if you start attacking the person instead of the argument you are not really winning the debate. It is merely a fallacy called ad hominem.

I am glad you enjoyed reading. :)

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-06 03:01 pm UTC (link)
I saw How to kill a Mockingbird yesterday so saying Ginny-lovers is a very funny pun

Racist comment aside, you do realize though that those "n----- lovers" were the ones who were right? That Tom Robinson did not rape Mayella and that all those against him were ignorant racists? Did you actually read the book?

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[info]darynthe
2006-06-06 03:37 pm UTC (link)
Of course poor Tom Robinson was innocent! That movie is very powerful and an excellent way to transmit how despicable racism is. I absolutely loved it. One of the best ten movies I've ever seen and Atticus one of my top heroes of lifetime.



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(Anonymous)
2006-06-06 04:51 pm UTC (link)
Ummm...You do realize that To Kill a Mockingbird is a book and not just a movie...better yet, that might explain things if you just watch the movies and don't bother to read the books.

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[info]phoenixwriter
2006-06-06 05:11 pm UTC (link)
Are you trying to say the movie showed that bit wrongly?

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-06 06:07 pm UTC (link)
No, just that "Ginny-lover" is not quite comparable to that other term in the insult department. Not to mention that if the parallel is extended much further, it makes the people who OPPOSE "Ginny-lovers" the ignorant ones.

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-06 06:08 pm UTC (link)
Errr, I'm not the same anon as above.

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[info]phoenixwriter
2006-06-06 06:13 pm UTC (link)
I think I replied to a comment where a Mouse seem to think watching a movie instead of reading the book explains stuff. Sounds to me that movie doesn't follows the book correctly.

No, just that "Ginny-lover" is not quite comparable to that other term in the insult department. Not to mention that if the parallel is extended much further, it makes the people who OPPOSE "Ginny-lovers" the ignorant ones.

Put it simple: You don't understand what Darynthe thought was funny in the first place. But its okay to draw that conclusion she must be a racist. Sounds familiar by now.

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-06 06:41 pm UTC (link)
Huh? I didn't even comment on the "funny pun" (mostly because I'm so flabbergasted by it, I can't think of anything to say).

Myself (and the original anon) were talking about the connection she was trying to make - however jokingly - between "Ginny-lovers" and the other kind of "lovers" in TKAM. That connecting "Ginny-lovers" to the other label implies that Ginny-lovers are the good guys. An implication that I don't believe [info]darynthe intended to make.

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[info]darynthe
2006-06-06 06:50 pm UTC (link)
Oh, that wonderful paranoia! I love it.

(waits for wankers to start saying that Darynthe supports mental illnesses)

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SEC
(Anonymous)
2006-06-06 08:43 pm UTC (link)
Pls break it down then, because the funny went right over my head, too.

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[info]darynthe
2006-06-06 08:50 pm UTC (link)
Points to the link under this post.

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[info]darynthe
2006-06-06 08:13 pm UTC (link)
Ok, all truths shall be revealed!

FAQ for "On Ginny Hate":
http://darynthe.livejournal.com/12051.html

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[info]xfascinationsx
2006-06-06 07:25 pm UTC (link)
But Ginny's defenders don't always love her. I find her obnoxious at the least, but I think some of the things being said about her are offensive. Calling someone (real or fictional) the school bicycle is never appropriate.

So why the admiration?

Well, at twelve years old, she was possessed by Voldemort. It would have been very easy for her not to trust anyone again (after all, Tom Riddle betrayed her trust). So I think that Ginny's ability to trust and love shows her strength.

- They are misogynists (miso-gynists, got it?) and they hate women. All women. Ginny is the new Eve whence every curse is distributed multiplied by a thousand, to any woman proud of being so.

Personally, I think you're missing the point of this argument. People who criticize Ginny for her relationships and presumed sexuality are perpetuating the standard that all women should be pure and free from sex. That's impossible to live up to--and Ginny shouldn't be attacked for being sensual.

But don't forget that there are Hermione/Emma Watson lovers too. ;) They're just as bad--if not worse.

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YXS
(Anonymous)
2006-06-06 07:50 pm UTC (link)
No, I'm afraid YOU are missing the point.
As all the rest barking about it (excuse my wording).

Darynthe was saying that NO, people who criticize Ginny for her relationships and presumed sexuality are NOT perpetuating the standard that all women should be pure and free from sex. This is simply leaping to conclusions. Mixing fiction with reality.
You cannot judge people or define their values based on what they think of how some book character is written.

This piece here is the clearest and most straightforward that's been written on this particular issue... I don't know how it could be made any more comprehensible.

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Re: YXS
[info]xfascinationsx
2006-06-06 11:06 pm UTC (link)
Yes they are. Or at least certain people are. What about Vance likening Ginny to a cheerleader and Harry to a quarterback? And you can't deny that the opinions that Ginny is a "whore" are based on the individual's real life ideals.

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[info]darynthe
2006-06-06 08:07 pm UTC (link)
Indeed,if Hermione lovers do this, they deserve as much censure. It does work both ways.

But don't mix Hermione with Emma. They are completely different entities. Hermione is fictional, Emma is real. Consequently, defending Emma or discussing her does entail a certain RL responsability and should be done with respect.

About the rest fo the post, it's just as yxs said. I won't repeat. :)

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[info]xfascinationsx
2006-06-06 11:08 pm UTC (link)
I meant the Hermione lovers who don't make the distinction. The Hermione lovers who insist that Hermione is their favorite character because of her fashion sense and good looks. xD

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[info]darynthe
2006-06-07 09:08 pm UTC (link)
My point was that as long as you don't insult and mistreat real people the self-identification thing is normal. To go to extremes and hate people because of shipping preferences, etc show a problem.

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[info]xfascinationsx
2006-06-08 02:06 pm UTC (link)
I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't hate anyone. And even the people I dislike, I dislike because of what they say. There've been some pretty rude and inappropriate things on both sides.

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[info]darynthe
2006-06-08 02:41 pm UTC (link)
I know, there have been rudeness and stupidity, and it's been going on for years. God knows I've ranted against it both for people in the contrary camp and also for those who have misbehaved in my own. I don't hate anyone either, if I did, I could hardly have the stand I've chosen.

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[info]xfascinationsx
2006-06-09 02:38 am UTC (link)
If only everyone was kinder to each other. That's the whole cycle.

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-08 02:21 am UTC (link)
So are you one of those rare people in the fandom who thinks Ginny's a virgin? Because her "defenders" are just saying "what's wrong with being a whore?" instead of saying anything else and it just irritates me.

We need more sane people in this fandom. There's none of this crap in ReBoot fandom. Not even Mouse fans say "what's wrong with that?" when she flirts with everyone.

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[info]darynthe
2006-06-08 02:44 pm UTC (link)
LOL I didn't know that Ginny's defenders are asking what's wrong with being a whore! I didn't know I thought Ginny was virgin either...but I guess you're right and maybe I do. ::ponders caressing imaginary white whiskers::

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YXS
(Anonymous)
2006-06-08 03:31 pm UTC (link)
You are being majorly wanked on hp_cornfield, darynthe. Ha haa... I knew it would get there.
Though how anyone can spend more than five minutes in that place, is beyond me.
But who am I to judge. People have different hobbies.

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Re: YXS
[info]darynthe
2006-06-08 04:02 pm UTC (link)
Am I being wanked? Really? Good, I really enjoy all that lovely attention. :p

-using brand new icon, courtesy of Herminia ;)-

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YXS
(Anonymous)
2006-06-08 05:30 pm UTC (link)
Just like to say that I come back to this fandom to read good stuff like you just posted. So keep the fun up, definitely.

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Re: YXS
[info]darynthe
2006-06-08 06:28 pm UTC (link)
Thanks yxs, people like you are those who make worth being in this fandom. :)

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